SEO Rockstars 2026: Day 3 - Chris Walker
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7fYFxq-JSM
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[00:04] All right. So, I'm just going to go

[00:05] through it as quickly as I can because

[00:07] that's kind of how I talk. I told I talk

[00:08] too fast, but I'll do my best. Uh, first

[00:10] place SEO, what actually worked and how

[00:12] I beat dozens of top SEOs. But really,

[00:14] it's about how to win by thinking

[00:16] differently. Now, real quick, I got two

[00:18] introductions, so I'm going to skip

[00:19] through this fast. My name is Chris M.

[00:20] Walker. And the reason that I use the M

[00:22] in my middle name is because there's a

[00:23] legendary SEO that I cannot out compete

[00:25] for my name. That is 90s one hit wonder

[00:28] Chris Walker. So, no matter what I do,

[00:30] now I tell that joke every time I give

[00:32] this presentation, but I actually

[00:33] decided to message this guy and tell him

[00:35] that I use his name every time and he

[00:37] thought it was hilarious. So, actual

[00:39] Chris Walker is very, very cool. This is

[00:41] me. This is what I've done. Who cares?

[00:43] Uh, thinking differently. The tactics

[00:45] are are great and I have fun with some

[00:47] of the ones I'm going to share. That's

[00:48] really not the main point that I want to

[00:50] make for you today. There are two things

[00:51] that I want you to take away from this

[00:53] presentation. The first and the most

[00:55] important one is to think differently

[00:57] and be creative. I know that's

[00:58] technically two things, but it's like

[00:59] one thing. Like, I'm a pretty good SEO,

[01:02] but I'm not elite like a lot of the

[01:04] people in this room or a lot of the

[01:05] people that were competing in this

[01:06] competition that I'm going to talk about

[01:08] today. But what I am good at is figuring

[01:10] out what needs to be done to get where

[01:11] you need to go. I also don't like to not

[01:14] get my way. So, when I decided to enter

[01:17] this contest, I knew I'd have to do

[01:19] things differently, but we we're going

[01:21] to get to that real quick. Uh competing.

[01:23] I'm also not a very competitive person.

[01:25] I prefer to measure myself against

[01:27] myself rather than against other people,

[01:28] which is what you have to do when you

[01:29] compete. But I do believe if you're

[01:31] going to compete, you should do whatever

[01:33] it takes to win. So when I do compete at

[01:36] something, I go all out to win. Just ask

[01:39] this guy.

[01:41] Competing. At least somebody knew who

[01:43] that was. So the second thing I want you

[01:45] to take away from this is if you're

[01:47] going to compete and whatever you're

[01:48] doing in business or in life is somewhat

[01:49] of a competition, win. So, what we're

[01:53] going to talk about today is a contest

[01:54] that I entered back in October. It ran

[01:56] through November. It was in Adise SEO,

[01:58] which is Jackie Child's community, if

[02:00] you know who that is. Uh, this is kind

[02:02] of the competition. This these were the

[02:03] rules. I'll go through it real quick so

[02:04] you understand. But they would choose a

[02:07] target keyword and it was a nonsense

[02:08] keyword that was a word that didn't

[02:10] exist, which made me think about you uh

[02:12] when you were talking about it earlier.

[02:14] And the timeline was from October 15th

[02:16] of last year till December 15th of last

[02:19] year. It had to be a new domain. Like it

[02:21] couldn't be an expired domain or site or

[02:23] anything like that. Brand new, fresh

[02:25] domain, newly registered. They chose the

[02:27] keyword and the t the madeup keyword

[02:29] that they chose was flamico. At least

[02:32] that's how I think it's pronounced. It's

[02:33] not a real word. So, and the site that I

[02:35] used was flamico.io.

[02:38] Uh because everybody gobbled up the good

[02:40] tldds before I even got to it. And this

[02:42] is the site. As you can see, it is

[02:44] completely gibberish one-page website.

[02:47] Well, structured onepage website with

[02:48] the questions and stuff. Somebody

[02:50] actually pointed that out to me. But

[02:51] that's it. That's all I made on the

[02:53] site. So, let's talk about what I did

[02:55] differently. Remember I said I want you

[02:56] to remember to think differently. That's

[02:58] the real lesson that I want you to take

[02:59] away from this. The site simple onepage

[03:02] website, one image, one video. I created

[03:04] the content in Claude. It was completely

[03:06] made up gibberish. Uh, fun story about

[03:08] that. I have a Claude project that is

[03:10] designed to write content in my voice.

[03:12] So it kind of sounds like me. And I

[03:14] said, "I need you to make up a gibberish

[03:15] website for a brand new term lumberico."

[03:17] And Claude came back and was like,

[03:20] "Chris Walker would never make up that

[03:21] that kind of content. It's bullshit."

[03:24] Was like, and I was like, "I'm Chris

[03:26] Walker and I'm telling you to do it."

[03:27] He's like, "No, I'm sorry. I can't." So

[03:29] I had to go to a regular cloud chat to

[03:31] get it to make that up.

[03:34] And then I did some uh basic on page

[03:36] SEO, just keywording H1, 1% keyword

[03:39] density, old school [ __ ] Optimize. I

[03:41] was gonna say is it all right if I swear

[03:42] but then I remember Mike went for me

[03:44] then I did optimize the image and video

[03:46] for the term. So my theory was since

[03:49] this is a brand new keyword that Google

[03:50] doesn't understand yet or what it's

[03:52] about or who who it should show it for

[03:54] or show show it for my mission was to

[03:56] build the association with that term to

[03:58] my site as click quickly and as bluntly

[04:01] as possible. So that gave me a chance to

[04:03] think differently and be far more

[04:05] aggressive than I would be normally. So,

[04:08] for example, I did something really

[04:09] really elegant with the metatitle and

[04:11] metad description and I filled it with

[04:14] nothing but the keyword over and over

[04:15] and over again.

[04:17] It's that it's funny. That's like one

[04:19] one reason I did it is because it's

[04:20] funny. The other one is again I was

[04:21] trying to force Google to understand

[04:23] that this [ __ ] keyword was related

[04:25] to my site as opposed to all the other

[04:27] people. So, I was trying to like hit it

[04:28] with a hammer rather than whatever

[04:31] people that don't do things aggressively

[04:32] use. And so by hammering it with keyword

[04:35] spam, I was able to overcompensate and

[04:37] build that association between that

[04:39] keyword and my site while everyone else

[04:41] screwed around links and GMBBS and a

[04:43] bunch of other necess unnecessary stuff

[04:45] that you would do under normal

[04:46] circumstances. So like I said, thinking

[04:49] differently. I said I'm not the most

[04:51] skilled SEO in this competition. There

[04:52] was Jackie Child. There was Holly

[04:54] Starks. A bunch of other people whose

[04:55] names you would know. I can't think of

[04:57] them at the moment, but you get the

[04:58] point. They're they're much better at

[04:59] SEO than I am. So I had to think about

[05:01] what advantages I have over others so I

[05:04] could get the W as the kids probably no

[05:06] longer say. So I thought of three

[05:08] advantages that I have. The first one is

[05:10] I have a big Facebook following.

[05:14] I have a medium-sized YouTube channel.

[05:16] Nothing too special. And then I have

[05:18] legit which I leveraged as well and

[05:19] we'll talk about that. So the first

[05:21] thing I did was Facebook. Went to

[05:24] Facebook and I said do me this favor. Go

[05:26] and Google this term. Look for my site

[05:28] and no other site. read the entire page

[05:31] and then come back here and comment once

[05:33] you're done. That's it. So, what I was

[05:35] doing was using referral traffic. I was

[05:38] waiting for Mike's head to pop up then

[05:40] uh and having them go from Facebook to

[05:43] Google to my site back to Facebook. So,

[05:45] it's kind of following that entire

[05:46] journey of real real people searching

[05:49] for it. So, I did that. The next thing I

[05:51] did was I did a live stream uh where I

[05:55] talked about the site and I sent an

[05:56] email to the live stream to people told

[05:59] them to come to the live stream and on

[06:00] the live stream I told them to go to the

[06:02] site. So that sent them from email to

[06:05] YouTube to my site and back. So again

[06:08] that's taking them on an entire journey

[06:10] and showing that actual human beings are

[06:12] interested in this site.

[06:14] I also have the and some of you probably

[06:16] hate this [ __ ] but I have the ability

[06:18] to send an a message to everybody's

[06:20] inbox on legit. So,

[06:24] I sent about 300,000 of these to the

[06:28] YouTube video. So, it went from legit to

[06:29] the YouTube video to my site and back.

[06:32] So, again, I leveraged assets that I had

[06:34] that other people don't. Uh, I sent an

[06:37] email to about a quarter of our list,

[06:38] which is about 200,000

[06:41] and only got about 300 clicks, but still

[06:44] email to the site and back. Uh, we have

[06:48] a Slack group with about I don't know

[06:50] 300 so people again I asked them to go

[06:52] Google the site, read the whole thing

[06:54] and then come back. So it's from Slack

[06:56] to my site and back. So, I'm using human

[06:59] beings to drive traffic to my site and

[07:01] show Google that people actually give a

[07:02] [ __ ] about the site as opposed to all

[07:04] the other sites in the competition. So,

[07:06] theory, referral traffic gets rankings

[07:08] far faster than links. And normally,

[07:11] it's temporary, but this was only a

[07:13] two-month window. So, I could build this

[07:15] up quickly and get to number one faster

[07:16] and hopefully establish that I'm the

[07:18] site that people care about for this and

[07:20] never give up that number one spot. So,

[07:22] that was my theory on referral traffic

[07:24] by jumping out to a quick. Another

[07:26] theory I had was demoralizing everybody

[07:28] else from the competition. So by jumping

[07:31] jumping out to number one really quick,

[07:33] I wanted everyone to lose interest for

[07:35] the rest of the contest and stop trying

[07:37] [ __ ] So that way I'm number one and

[07:39] they just give up. That seemed to work.

[07:41] So referral traffic from actual human

[07:43] beings. Remember those? Uh Facebook X,

[07:46] LinkedIn, YouTube, email legit. We also

[07:48] did push and browser notifications, but

[07:50] I didn't have a way to really show

[07:51] those.

[07:54] that worked well and I wanted more, but

[07:56] I didn't know how to do any of that

[07:57] myself because like I said, I'm not that

[07:59] great of an SEO. Most of the stuff you

[08:01] guys talked about, I don't know how to

[08:02] do any of that [ __ ] So, what I did was

[08:04] I hired somebody else to do it for me.

[08:06] And I got this guy, his username is

[08:08] Ideal Mike. I won't mention what site

[08:10] it's on so Mike doesn't come up here and

[08:11] yell at me for pitching, but

[08:15] I had him make a post on Reddit that

[08:17] would build would send over to the site

[08:18] and some referral traffic. He has this

[08:20] uh CT a couple of CTR CTR services that

[08:24] I use. He has a uh Is it still on?

[08:28] Okay, just not get so close. Okay. Uh he

[08:31] has a couple of social media things

[08:32] where he'll send like to a big Facebook

[08:34] group again driving people from Facebook

[08:36] to the site and back and he has a couple

[08:38] other services like that. So I used him

[08:40] to drive a bunch more referral traffic

[08:42] and CTR traffic to the site to keep it

[08:44] there. But I also did some clever [ __ ]

[08:46] I did some search box optimization which

[08:48] is where if you search something and it

[08:49] like suggests what you should click in

[08:50] the search box. What I did was I

[08:52] optimized it for when somebody tried to

[08:55] search that term they would come over

[08:56] and then see mine. So what I did I

[08:59] leveraged my competitors to give me CTR

[09:02] because I know that we're a bunch of

[09:03] arrogant [ __ ] who are going to

[09:04] go search our own rankings. So when they

[09:06] search their own rankings they would see

[09:07] mine and be like what is he up to and

[09:09] click that and become my own my

[09:11] competition became my own CTR. So I le

[09:13] so I thought differently and I leveraged

[09:15] my competitors to help me win. So

[09:18] referral traffic that worked really

[09:20] well, but I wasn't done yet. By far the

[09:22] biggest difference maker I did was

[09:23] chrome signal manipulation. When when I

[09:26] say I did it, I mean I got somebody else

[09:28] to do it. But this is a service and I

[09:30] don't 100% know how it works, but I know

[09:32] that it involves having people having

[09:34] some kind of bot go to Chrome and then

[09:36] go to social media and then send it out.

[09:38] This worked really well. This jumped me

[09:40] from like page three to number one. and

[09:41] I'm convinced that this is what got me

[09:43] to number one better than anything else

[09:44] and is the main reason I want if I had

[09:46] to point to one thing it would be that.

[09:48] So referral traffic in my opinion is the

[09:51] most powerful SEO tactic right now but

[09:53] that's not all I did.

[09:56] Backlinks uh referral traffic like I

[09:59] said the biggest thing but we also had

[10:01] to do some backlinks. Uh most other

[10:03] people in the competition focused on

[10:04] backlinks like their entire strategy. It

[10:07] wasn't a major part of my strategy, but

[10:09] I did do some backlinking and some of it

[10:11] was conventional and some of it was less

[10:13] so, which we'll get to in a minute. Uh,

[10:15] I bought like 20 niche edits. Uh, as far

[10:17] as the anchor text, conventional wisdom

[10:19] is to be cautious, use branded, generic,

[10:21] URL, all the stuff that we all think

[10:23] we're supposed to do. I went the other

[10:24] direction and did 20 of them with exact

[10:27] match anchor text because again, I'm

[10:29] trying to force that association between

[10:31] that Google and my site for that term.

[10:33] So continuing the theory of building

[10:35] that association, that's why I did

[10:37] nothing but exact matched anchors. Uh

[10:39] next, I wanted to force Google to again

[10:41] to assocate my site with that keyword.

[10:43] So I did some I don't even know what to

[10:44] call them, but like authority type

[10:47] things, uh parasites, whatever you want

[10:48] to call them, entity stuff. So some web

[10:50] 2.0, some social media profiles, all

[10:53] optimized or direct or exact matched

[10:55] anchors to the uh the main term. Uh, I

[10:57] did some Reddit guest posts, uh, which

[11:00] actually will generate a little bit of

[11:01] referral traffic on its own because this

[11:03] guy owns like a bunch of subreddits and

[11:05] he'll make a post and it'll drive some

[11:06] traffic over to your site. Uh, wiki

[11:08] pages, another wiki link, a link from

[11:11] GitHub, which unfortunately doesn't work

[11:12] anymore, but that was a really good one.

[11:15] Uh, some other guest post, social media

[11:17] post. So, basically, all I'm doing is

[11:19] trying to establish from these high

[11:20] trusted sites some links over to my site

[11:22] to again force that association between

[11:24] that term and my site. uh medium and so

[11:27] on. So, a variety of high authority,

[11:29] parasite, web 2.0, social, whatever the

[11:31] hell you want to call it, linking to

[11:33] naturally build trust, entity, and

[11:35] possibly some more referral traffic.

[11:36] There's one more type of link I did

[11:38] though, and these were web 3.0 NFT

[11:42] virtual world links. So, again, I have

[11:45] no clue how to do this. I'm probably

[11:46] even going to label them wrong in the

[11:48] slides that come up, come slides that

[11:49] come up, but thank you to Matt for uh

[11:51] taking care of those for me out of

[11:53] nowhere. Wasn't expecting that. What I

[11:55] will say, here's one of them. It's Lucha

[11:57] Libé guy. You can see he linked it over

[11:59] to my site there. I don't even know what

[12:02] this is, but it's some sort of page that

[12:04] he tells me is good. Uh,

[12:07] this one is a virtual world uh one, and

[12:09] you can kind of see that. You know

[12:10] what's funny is where I live is like

[12:12] right there. So, that's why he chose

[12:15] that location. Nobody come visit me. I

[12:17] don't like people. Um,

[12:20] and there's another one. Again, I don't

[12:21] know if this is NFT or whatever. go talk

[12:23] to Matt about this afterwards.

[12:24] Hopefully, he has some way for you to

[12:26] give him money for this. Now, uh this

[12:28] one is some sort of map thing. And

[12:30] again, linking to my site from the

[12:33] virtual I don't know what the hell this

[12:34] is, but a virtual world map. But what I

[12:37] will tell you is if the you're wondering

[12:39] if that worked before adding these, I

[12:42] dropped in and out of number one. After

[12:44] I added these, I got I was at number one

[12:46] and I never left again. So, you know,

[12:48] correlation, a causation, I don't know.

[12:50] But I never dropped it out at number one

[12:52] ever again, including to today uh after

[12:54] I built or I after I had Mel Matt build

[12:57] those links for me. So check check those

[12:59] out if you were here for his

[13:00] presentation two days ago. It was great.

[13:03] The competitors. So I said that I wasn't

[13:06] the only person in this competition that

[13:07] got creative because you know I want to

[13:09] give credit where credit's due. The

[13:10] first one is Luke Fanders whose partner

[13:12] is here today. He wasn't even in the

[13:14] competition. I messaged him about like

[13:16] what the [ __ ] are you doing? You aren't

[13:17] even like competing in this thing. He's

[13:18] like, I'm just doing it for the glory.

[13:22] And so what he did, he created a fake

[13:24] band called Lightning fastico. And he

[13:28] actually created a whole like a whole

[13:29] band and a whole band persona around it.

[13:32] And he created some YouTube videos that

[13:33] still ranked for it. Uh, and for a long

[13:36] time he was, it's pardon. He was like

[13:40] number we were SW he was like number two

[13:42] for a long time and I guess they got

[13:43] busy and like focused on other things.

[13:45] But I thought that was incredibly

[13:46] creative, a unique way to come at it,

[13:48] thinking differently, which again is

[13:50] kind of the point. The other competitor

[13:52] was Tyler Rogers. He's not here, but

[13:54] he's a member of the community. Colton's

[13:56] here. He knows who I'm talking about.

[13:58] And uh Tyler was the only person that

[14:00] really gave me any consistent

[14:02] competition throughout this. And the way

[14:03] he went about it was way more creative

[14:05] than I was. He actually created a whole

[14:08] person, like a whole persona of a guy

[14:11] named Tim Flabberico, who was the

[14:13] founder and CEO

[14:15] Yeah, exactly. Of some uh I don't know

[14:17] agency thing type thing. And like he

[14:21] created the whole thing like LinkedIn

[14:22] pages, profiles, press releases, all of

[14:25] it. And it worked for a long time until

[14:27] I got Matt's links. We were exchanging

[14:29] first place for a good long time. And

[14:32] then toward the end of the contest, he

[14:34] started getting even more creative and

[14:36] he killed Tim Bombber.

[14:41] So he actually did a press release

[14:47] Lober announces passing his founder Tim

[14:50] Lumber in a water polo accident

[14:57] and it actually caught on like people

[14:59] literally on Reddit were literally

[15:00] talking about this like this was some

[15:02] scam post that this is a fake site and

[15:04] somebody was like yeah this company

[15:06] kicks off with a vague mission the weak

[15:07] founder sells out and dies all this

[15:09] information I see what they did there

[15:11] somebody like this got that much

[15:12] attention And I so I was like challenge

[15:15] accepted. So what I did was to leverage

[15:19] that uh to neutralize the momentum he

[15:21] was building because this was starting

[15:22] to work. I made a memorial video on

[15:24] YouTube and Facebook

[15:27] where I literally went in and like said

[15:30] passes away before taking over from.io

[15:34] and linking out to my site again. And

[15:37] like it did pretty well. it got like uh

[15:39] where is it like 1,200 views and that

[15:41] neutralized that threat. So I took away

[15:44] the advantage away and you can see like

[15:46] even now that video ranks number one for

[15:49] that term like even above my site and I

[15:50] have all three of those by the way. It's

[15:52] not relevant but I just wanted to flex

[15:54] and so basically Tyler [ __ ] around and

[15:56] found out

[15:57] what happened what happens when you try

[15:59] to get creative with me. So the results

[16:03] were this is uh the Slack channel for

[16:05] the the group that was hosting it and

[16:06] this is on December 15th. He announces

[16:08] the winner. I handled it humbly by

[16:11] saying that the champ is here.

[16:15] Yeah. So that was that. And you can see

[16:17] I came in first, but I also came in

[16:18] ninth because you were allowed to have

[16:19] up to three sites. So I also came in

[16:21] ninth for a site that I didn't even

[16:22] really try on. And again, still at

[16:25] number one. This is from like two days

[16:26] ago. I have number one organic and I

[16:28] have all three of the images. So this

[16:31] work and like I said the lesson I don't

[16:34] want you to necessarily take away the

[16:35] strategies because a lot of that you

[16:36] wouldn't really be able to apply in most

[16:38] of what you're doing. What I want you to

[16:40] take away from this is it isn't

[16:41] necessarily what I did but more how I

[16:43] pushed myself to think differently. Uh

[16:46] referral traffic was an absolute game

[16:48] changer. It I never would have figured

[16:50] that out without looking at this

[16:51] differently. If I just handled this like

[16:53] I do any other client or any other site

[16:54] or any other thing that I do. It

[16:56] wouldn't have worked. Force the

[16:57] association. Again, I would never have

[16:59] been that aggressive with like a client

[17:00] site or an affiliate site or anything

[17:02] like that. So, if I played it the way I

[17:05] normally would, I probably wouldn't have

[17:06] won uh backs. If I'd been conservative

[17:09] with it with the anchor text or if I

[17:11] hadn't tried Matt's links on it because

[17:12] I would have been too afraid because

[17:13] it's a client site or whatever, I don't

[17:15] think this would have won because

[17:16] everybody else was doing the same [ __ ]

[17:18] Uh, you know, parasites, press releases,

[17:19] whatever. I did some different stuff and

[17:21] I think that's why I was able to beat

[17:23] them out. You know, it's hard to say for

[17:25] sure, but the evidence seems to point to

[17:27] that, right? So think differently, be

[17:30] creative. Most of these people stuck to

[17:32] bread and butter SEO, links, perfect on

[17:34] page, all the stuff that we all do that

[17:36] we think is right and usually is. That's

[17:38] great, but sometimes you have to think

[17:39] outside the box to get the W. So think

[17:42] about what advantages and assets you

[17:44] have and try different things. Don't

[17:46] listen to people whose only goal is to

[17:47] [ __ ] on any technique that they don't

[17:49] use or they don't like. I'm sure that

[17:50] everybody in this room just thought of

[17:52] somebody in particular when I said that.

[17:54] It's okay to think outside the box. And

[17:57] when you have competitors, like we all

[17:59] do in one way or another, it is okay to

[18:01] think big. Uh do whatever you have to do

[18:04] to succeed. Use all your assets, use all

[18:06] your resources, use all of your network.

[18:08] Like you said, use your network, use

[18:10] everything you have, and don't be afraid

[18:11] to try new stuff because if you're going

[18:12] to compete in SEO or in anything else,

[18:15] you should do whatever it takes to win.

[18:18] So that's it. Thank you.

[18:24] And I put together a guide with like all

[18:26] the steps and all the stuff that I use

[18:28] if you want to access that. Hopefully

[18:29] that doesn't get me banned for pitching,

[18:32] but

[18:34] I know I'm just at least I thought it

[18:36] was.

[18:38] And then uh everybody got that? Okay.

[18:40] Okay.

[18:42] There's that'll actually legit. It'll

[18:44] take you there and like it's just a step

[18:46] by-step kind of thing. And then if you

[18:47] want to connect with me, you can do that

[18:48] there. So, I think I know almost

[18:50] everybody in this room already, but

[18:53] and that's it. If there's any questions

[18:56] back,

[19:03] thank you.

[19:06] Nope. No

[19:07] questions. Anyone questions?

[19:18] Great presentation. funny as [ __ ] Thank

[19:19] you very much.

[19:21] Okay, all these people that were going

[19:22] up against you, were you guys talking

[19:24] and were you out doing it or were you

[19:26] just seeing what each other did by going

[19:29] online? Like were you in the same slack

[19:31] saying well I did this and I did that.

[19:33] So the question was was everybody in the

[19:35] competition doing able to communicate on

[19:37] what they were doing what they weren't

[19:39] we are all in the same slack group. A

[19:40] few people would say I did this and did

[19:42] that. But it was also there was a list.

[19:44] I don't I can't go back to it, but it

[19:46] showed who was in what place. So you

[19:48] kind of knew who was doing what, but

[19:49] nobody really said this is what I'm

[19:50] doing and then it worked. I did when I

[19:52] did a couple of like the clever things,

[19:53] but for the most part, you kind of

[19:55] figured it out. Nobody said this is what

[19:56] I did, you know? So you kind of had to

[19:58] like just like we have to do regularly,

[20:00] right?

[20:00] Did you win a prize?

[20:01] I did. I won $1,000 which I gave to

[20:05] and I won a year subscription to that

[20:07] community.

[20:08] Wow. Thank you.

[20:11] more way more than the question was how

[20:12] much did it cost with those purchases

[20:14] and it was way more than I so but again

[20:17] it was this honestly this right here is

[20:19] the value I really got just being able

[20:21] to talk about it

[20:41] So, the Chrome referral traffic you

[20:43] mentioned, I think there was like a

[20:45] Fiverr

[20:46] supplier you used or something in the

[20:48] screenshot, but was that was that legit?

[20:51] I don't know. I can't I can't see back

[20:52] here. So, so, so with with that one, can

[20:56] you explain that a little bit of what

[20:56] the difference is with the other

[20:58] referral traffic and that one?

[20:59] I'm gonna be Oh, the question was, what

[21:00] was the Chrome signal manipulation

[21:02] service? I'm going to be completely

[21:03] transparent. I don't 100% understand how

[21:05] it works, but what I do know is that he

[21:07] somehow sends people into like a Google

[21:09] Chrome browser which sends the signal

[21:11] and he sends people from there to social

[21:13] media over to the site. So it has it

[21:16] being in Chrome I think is the key to

[21:17] being that could be wrong. I don't know

[21:19] but that's my understanding.

[21:24] else,

[21:33] man. I love it. All these creative ways

[21:35] of of getting stuff done. Like you say,

[21:38] don't take it literally, but use that to

[21:40] inspire yourself to think outside of the

[21:42] box. And you thought way outside of the

[21:45] box.

[21:46] out of some of those the the gigs that

[21:49] you use on that platform which isn't

[21:51] Fiverr, would you use any of those for a

[21:56] a client let's say plumbing or know just

[21:59] regular local businesses or any

[22:01] business?

[22:01] Yeah. So the question was do I use any

[22:03] of the services that I showed in this on

[22:05] regular ones? And the answer is yes. A

[22:07] lot of those like web 2.0 social

[22:09] profiles they're like a standard part of

[22:10] like my my SOP. I have used the Chrome

[22:13] signal thing, but only when like I need

[22:16] like a really like I'm like stuck like

[22:18] page two or something. That will usually

[22:19] get me the rest of the way there. Uh the

[22:22] rest of those the traffic ones a little

[22:23] bit here and there. I don't have like I

[22:26] don't do enough sites to where it's

[22:27] really necessary most of the time, but

[22:29] there's nothing wrong with it. I have

[22:30] used it before.

[22:33] Yeah. Yeah. All that's linked in that

[22:35] thing that I uh in that last QR code.

[22:45] that

[22:52] that's why I let you.

[22:54] Oh, thank you whoever said that.

[22:59] Fiber guy said that.

[23:03] Is that all or

[23:12] on your SOP. I if I missed I just opened

[23:14] it up. I didn't read it. When you got

[23:16] the endorsement post from the the third

[23:18] party Reddit that he did on on that

[23:20] case, did let's assume it's called that

[23:22] a tier one backlink and the way we

[23:24] talked about it back to flico.io,

[23:27] did you spend any time tier twoing

[23:28] building links to what he posted on a

[23:30] Reddit that with a long post URL or

[23:31] anything like that?

[23:32] So the question was, did I do any beyond

[23:34] tier one or tier two? I was set up. But

[23:36] the answer is no because I figured there

[23:38] wasn't enough time for it to like with

[23:40] the two-month window for it to like pass

[23:41] that trust on. So no, I didn't.

[23:43] Everything was directly to the site,

[23:44] which is again not something I would

[23:46] normally do, but this a short time

[23:48] window, so I had to be more aggressive.

[23:54] Curiosity question. You kept like

[23:56] releasing videos. Oh, sorry. You kept

[23:59] like releasing videos like it's going to

[24:00] premiere, but they never premiered.

[24:04] I I don't I don't

[24:04] No. Like so and when you go search bar

[24:07] and everything and you scroll down, you

[24:08] have a video waiting to premiere and it

[24:10] would like say in 24 hours and it reset

[24:13] in 24 hours. Like what the hell is he

[24:14] doing?

[24:15] I don't know what you're talking about.

[24:16] I'm sorry. The question was uh you had a

[24:19] bunch of videos to like waiting to

[24:21] premiere on YouTube and then they never

[24:22] premiered. I I didn't know that I did.

[24:29] Oh,

[24:31] it should have. Uh if you look on like

[24:32] my my YouTube on like ice cream. It

[24:35] might be there. If not, maybe I just,

[24:37] you know, I think, you know, I think

[24:37] what happened there was one day.

[24:39] Yeah, I think there was one day when I

[24:41] was gonna do one and then something came

[24:42] up and I couldn't do it.

[24:45] That's called poking, right? That's

[24:46] called Hey, that's called you. Hi. So,

[24:48] let Nester explain actually

[24:55] [ __ ] tired of talking already. But

[24:57] YouTube poking if you set up a stream,

[24:58] right? a live a live event

[25:01] and set up the thumbnail with the

[25:03] keyword and everything. If it's a type

[25:05] of keyword that's easy enough, the

[25:07] thumbnail will show in the SERs right on

[25:09] page one without you ever releasing the

[25:11] video. So you can schedule it out like a

[25:14] year away. Now, huh?

[25:17] Yeah, I remember that super old poking.

[25:19] It was crazy, bro. Especially when you

[25:21] used to remember you used to get the big

[25:22] old thumbnail on the whole top and [ __ ]

[25:24] used to be crazy. That [ __ ] still works

[25:26] here and there, but noncompetitive like

[25:28] that, right? Perfect [ __ ] play. And

[25:30] Chris, next time, right, you can

[25:32] actually schedule those out and keep

[25:34] Yeah.

[25:35] taking up multiple spots on page one.

[25:37] Yeah. It wouldn't have counted though.

[25:38] It was only the sites.

[25:40] Oh, okay.

[25:53] Simon are here.

[25:57] Okay.

[25:59] Did you do press releases? I didn't

[26:01] notice there.

[26:02] Uh, you could do them. I didn't do any.

[26:04] I figured that it just

[26:05] it doesn't push enough trust or

[26:06] authority or whatever, but you could. A

[26:08] couple few people did.

[26:09] It's too vanilla.

[26:10] Yeah. She said there's some online

[26:12] questions.

[26:16] Okay.

[26:17] question, how much did the other

[26:19] referral traffic rankings before the

[26:22] signals?

[26:23] Uh, the question was, how much did other

[26:25] referral traffic uh affect ranking

[26:27] before the Chrome signal? Before I did

[26:29] that, I was on like page two or three

[26:30] like it would flip flop around a lot

[26:32] because there was so many people doing

[26:33] things. Well, once I did that, I got to

[26:35] page one and I stayed there and I was on

[26:36] I was at number one most of the

[26:38] competition.

[26:39] And then the next question is from

[26:40] Peter. Have you tested

[26:43] web readings on different

[26:48] Uh, the question was, have I tried

[26:50] Matt's web free links on any other

[26:51] project? No other links. And not yet is

[26:54] the answer. So, we will try that soon

[26:58] as soon as he lists a service like I've

[27:00] been telling you.

[27:03] No, I He's going to because I've been

[27:05] yelling at him a lot.

[27:10] Okay, let's give one more hand. Awesome.