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SEO Rockstars 2026: Day 2 - Brian Kato
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[00:04] How's it going everyone? Yeah, thanks
[00:05] thanks for having me here. We're going
[00:07] to talk a little bit about GSC. How many
[00:09] of you guys are really tapping into GSC?
[00:12] Are you in it on the daily like
[00:15] interesting? Okay,
[00:17] this is one of the tools hands down I
[00:19] have killed probably 90% of my tech
[00:23] stack. I said [ __ ] it. I torched it,
[00:25] burned it to the ground, and like all I
[00:28] need is Google Search Console. Now,
[00:30] what's interesting here, let's talk a
[00:32] little bit about what this presentation
[00:33] is, what it is not. Right? So, uh, one
[00:36] of the things with here we go. Um, one
[00:39] of the things with what this is, sorry,
[00:43] do that. There we go. Sweet.
[00:47] A little bit about what it is and what
[00:48] it's not. So, one of the things that
[00:51] this is, it's all about systems
[00:53] thinking. It's understanding patterns,
[00:54] pattern recognition. That's really all
[00:56] Google is. Is when you can start to
[00:58] identify a pattern, when you can start
[01:00] to see those patterns like a where's
[01:02] Wald or magic eye kind of a thing.
[01:04] Things become very clear. It's probably
[01:06] one of the most beautiful and difficult
[01:08] things when you're looking at big data
[01:09] in spreadsheets, right? You're looking
[01:11] at all this data and how can you parse
[01:13] that? How can we get it to a usable
[01:15] format? So, what we're going to talk a
[01:17] little bit about is um we're going to
[01:19] talk about systems thinking, pattern
[01:20] detection, directional inference, and
[01:23] what this isn't is we're not saying that
[01:25] correlation equals cause. Just because
[01:27] we see something doesn't mean this is
[01:29] the de facto way that it is. So, with
[01:32] that said, why would we use GSC? Number
[01:35] one, a lot of our current SEO tools, a
[01:37] lot of the stuff that we have relied on,
[01:39] be it HRES, Semrush, all this other
[01:41] stuff are turning to complete [ __ ] when
[01:45] it comes to AI search because how do you
[01:48] measure it? What are you actually doing?
[01:50] And fundamentally, I think a lot of this
[01:52] goes back to again intent behind the
[01:55] intent. Marty Marian kind of style,
[01:57] right? Understanding visibility, how how
[01:59] your end user thinks, how they feel.
[02:03] Check out Jim's tool, right? It's it's
[02:05] the exact same thing. We want to get
[02:06] inside the psychology of what makes this
[02:10] end user tick. What's going to make them
[02:12] click through? What's going to make them
[02:13] buy my [ __ ] Become a lifelong customer.
[02:16] All of that. So, one of the things with
[02:19] AI queries is that we have seen growth
[02:21] in that. I've heard arguments both for
[02:23] and against it that hey SEO is not gonna
[02:27] SEO isn't dead in spite of what some
[02:29] people say and that AI is gonna you know
[02:32] be belly up soon too whatever I think
[02:35] that no matter how you look at this we
[02:37] need to be poised and prepared
[02:40] to understand if the market turns one
[02:42] way great if it turns the other way and
[02:45] completely different than what we expect
[02:48] who the [ __ ] cares great we can adapt,
[02:52] we can shift, we can pivot. So, it's
[02:54] behavioral shift. And I think that that
[02:56] fundamentally beyond just keyword
[02:59] keyword volume or keyword difficulty or
[03:02] all of these other things or even
[03:04] topical mapping, I think it goes beyond
[03:06] that. And I think we're at the beginning
[03:08] stages of understanding
[03:10] what it is that people are actually
[03:12] feeling, what's going to make them want
[03:13] to move forward with your business. So,
[03:16] the core problem is that AI search
[03:18] behavior isn't really labeled, or is it?
[03:23] AI is not segmented,
[03:26] or is it?
[03:28] And then most SEOs are blind to the kind
[03:30] of change that's actually going on. So,
[03:32] one of the things that we like to do is
[03:34] using regular expressions or reax. Um,
[03:38] are any of you familiar with Reax? How
[03:39] many of you guys Okay, few few hands in
[03:42] here. Sweet. So one of the things that
[03:43] we can do with rejax is it's at a very
[03:46] basic level kind of like what we used to
[03:48] use a spin tax where we say this word
[03:50] this word this word this word and this
[03:52] word filter everything that has that or
[03:55] omit particular words or pick things out
[03:58] of the middle of a sentence or out of
[04:00] the middle of a string or structure. And
[04:02] that's really what we're trying to do
[04:04] with Google Search Console data. What's
[04:06] great, and I I wish Search Console would
[04:09] adjust the way that their their
[04:10] formatting is, but I always thought it
[04:12] was weird that we have clicks, then we
[04:14] have impressions, and like that's kind
[04:15] of asked backwards to me. Why wouldn't
[04:17] you have impressions, then this is how
[04:19] many people click through on it, then
[04:22] look at the click-through rate, you
[04:24] know, and all that, but Google does
[04:27] weird [ __ ] I don't think that surprises
[04:28] any of us, right? The considerations
[04:32] when you're using Reax in particular
[04:34] with Google Search Console is that you
[04:36] need to use what's called RE2 or Reax 2.
[04:39] If you try and do other things like back
[04:41] patterns, um more advanced stuff that
[04:44] would typically work in like Python or
[04:47] other kinds of Reax tools, it's going to
[04:49] [ __ ] up and it's not going to work. So,
[04:52] if you are doing this, you need to add
[04:54] in RE2 formatting for Google Search
[04:58] Console. Very, very important.
[05:00] Otherwise, you're going to be super
[05:01] frustrated, right? But it's easy to over
[05:03] undermatch on stuff. So again, we want
[05:06] to make sure that we're clustering
[05:07] things correctly, that we're actually
[05:09] identifying what is the user intent
[05:10] behind this. We've got some sampling
[05:12] grouping and I'll show you some really
[05:15] interesting things we can do with this.
[05:17] There are limitations within Google
[05:19] Search Console. Unfortunately, they give
[05:21] you a kind of a sample set. There's ways
[05:23] around that in particular with Sheets,
[05:25] which we'll get into. And then also
[05:28] combining sheets with Looker Studio if
[05:30] you're using big thing uh things like
[05:31] BigQuery or larger data sets. Um I know
[05:36] Jose and Dan Curts these guys like big
[05:40] data sets Charles too big data sets
[05:43] right
[05:44] and totally sexy with big data. I like
[05:48] nerding out on that. Right. Lots of data
[05:50] so much. Um but that's what we need to
[05:53] look at. So when we're looking at an
[05:54] analytical implications, what I'm
[05:56] looking at is overall trend. Kind of
[05:59] seeing what the data says and then
[06:00] building a story off of that. I think
[06:03] especially when it comes to reporting or
[06:05] reporting to clients or even reporting
[06:08] internally with our team, if we're not
[06:10] actually looking at what that story
[06:12] says, we can infer a lot of things that
[06:15] may or may not necessarily be correct.
[06:18] So
[06:20] what we want to look at is a lot of
[06:21] people are doing longer phrasing. It's a
[06:24] declarative tone. It's an instructional
[06:26] kinds of thing. And this is specifically
[06:28] because of the way that people search
[06:29] when it comes to AI.
[06:32] And one of the things here, this will be
[06:34] kind of the only software kind of, you
[06:37] know, shout out that I'm going to give
[06:38] in the presentation because again, I've
[06:40] I've killed like probably 90% of my tech
[06:42] sack. SEO gets. If you haven't heard of
[06:45] this software, I highly, highly
[06:47] recommend it. There's a few reasons why.
[06:49] Um, number one, you have filters. And as
[06:53] you can see right here,
[06:57] they have some predefined filters. PAAA
[06:59] is longtail keywords. But then we can
[07:02] also save our filters. The biggest
[07:05] benefit to that with this particular
[07:07] software
[07:09] is that I can look at all of my Google
[07:11] search console and I can actually
[07:13] identify I can set that reax reax
[07:15] expression and look at it globally
[07:19] across all of my sites as opposed to
[07:22] just a single oneoff.
[07:27] And this is actually filtered out
[07:28] specifically for AI based terms. So
[07:32] absolutely beautiful. So, I highly
[07:34] recommend that tool. At any rate, player
[07:36] one, let's get ready. Right. AI mode
[07:38] snitching. This is really, really fun. I
[07:41] highly recommend to to do this when it
[07:44] comes to GSC stuff. This is actually a
[07:47] marriage counseling uh client that I
[07:49] worked with.
[07:51] This is straight from AI mode. So if we
[07:54] read this, the problem with saying
[07:56] something hurtful during the a heated
[07:59] conflict is you can damage your
[08:00] relationships because a you have to let
[08:03] the other person speak. B you won't win
[08:06] the argument. C you can't take back what
[08:08] you said. D you shouldn't try to
[08:10] convince people. Please select the best
[08:12] answer from these choices.
[08:15] This is straight from AI search.
[08:19] Or we can get super spicy with stuff. If
[08:23] you can't read this,
[08:25] here it is. Clearly, I can see that
[08:28] either someone has fat fingered this,
[08:30] mistyped it, or whatever. But
[08:34] why does my husband still reach out to
[08:36] his previous affair partner? I'm a
[08:38] Christian woman. He says that I'm not
[08:40] sure what she's saying here, but he
[08:41] doesn't have to walk with Jesus, yet we
[08:43] don't find affairs in counseling. We've
[08:45] tried it. Blah blah blah blah blah. He's
[08:48] made strides, and my heart breaks. I'm
[08:51] committed to staying with him fully
[08:52] through this. I am concerned.
[08:56] Excited and concerned. Like it's a mixed
[08:59] bag right here. Right.
[09:00] So this is crazy. Like like I understand
[09:05] what y'all seeing, right? Like the query
[09:08] that came in the referral right into the
[09:11] GSC. That's not a keyword, bro.
[09:14] That's not even a paa, right? What it
[09:16] is, it's a it's a user on a [ __ ]
[09:19] journey. Sounds like she might want a
[09:20] private eye. That's what I got out of
[09:21] it.
[09:27] This is from Google Search Console.
[09:31] When you apply certain reax filters, you
[09:33] uncover this.
[09:36] It's crazy. Player two, let's get ready.
[09:38] Right. This is a plumbing contractor.
[09:41] Best toilet best toilet cleaners is the
[09:43] actual page that is serving this. And so
[09:46] also, if you aren't familiar with this,
[09:48] in Google Search Console, you can define
[09:50] the page and then see all of the queries
[09:53] and keywords that that page potentially
[09:55] ranks for or has appeared in Google
[09:57] search for. This one here. I'm an
[09:59] affluent, financially secure millennial
[10:01] in a large ethnically diverse household
[10:03] with kids, pets, and I show a strong
[10:06] preference for name brand cleaning
[10:07] products with advanced features,
[10:09] demonstrating the highest usage of
[10:11] specialized disinfectants, and maintain
[10:13] a generally positive but cautious
[10:16] attitude towards cleaning, balancing
[10:18] efficiency with safety concerns. Can you
[10:20] recommend some manual toilet bowl
[10:23] cleaner brands that have that are the
[10:26] best for deep cleaning tips for each
[10:28] brand? Give me the pros, the cons, and
[10:31] the context of deep cleaning.
[10:34] This is not [ __ ] you're going to find
[10:36] anywhere in Href, Semrush, any of this
[10:40] kind of stuff for queries. This tells me
[10:42] what the buyer is thinking when they're
[10:45] thinking it.
[10:48] Yeah,
[10:50] exactly. I'm a younger millennial or Gen
[10:52] Z consuming large household thing. And
[10:54] so we can get into this, right? We can
[10:57] see in bullet one over here. Bullet two.
[11:00] We can filter by page. See all the
[11:02] queries you're recognized for. You can
[11:04] use the the SEO secret tool. How many of
[11:06] you guys know what that is? F option F.
[11:10] It's the one tool I'm surprised no SEO
[11:12] [ __ ] talks about. If it's not on the
[11:15] page, you're going to get tested for it
[11:17] in Google, but it's going to be really
[11:19] tough for you to rank. Easiest thing to
[11:21] do, controlF, see if it's on the page.
[11:23] If it's not there, [ __ ] put it on the
[11:24] page, and you will rank for it. It's
[11:26] surprising. Oh my god. Smok and mirrors,
[11:29] blackbox, crazy [ __ ] If you talk about
[11:33] it, if you mention it, it increases your
[11:36] chance of ranking for it. It's amazing,
[11:38] right?
[11:39] And so you can also add these things to
[11:41] your FAQ. If you want to talk hidden
[11:43] fields, if you want to talk the LLMS
[11:45] text file, any of this stuff, you can
[11:47] take all of these queries. If it's not
[11:49] on your page, [ __ ] put it on your
[11:50] page,
[11:52] request Google to crawl it, take a look
[11:54] at it, and watch what happens to your
[11:56] rankings. I think you'll be pleasantly
[11:57] surprised,
[11:59] right? Not difficult at all for this.
[12:03] All right, so let's talk a little bit
[12:05] about the boss battle.
[12:07] Google Search Console. Again, you are
[12:10] limited within GSC. I'm not crazy about
[12:13] the format, hence why I like SEO gets.
[12:16] It's a little nicer format, cleaner
[12:17] interface, all that.
[12:20] When you're doing Google Search Console,
[12:22] open up Looker Studio, connect your GSC
[12:26] account.
[12:28] When you add data to your report, and
[12:30] you're just creating a sample report,
[12:32] stupid simple here, right? These are all
[12:33] free tools. I highly recommend that.
[12:35] kill 90% of your tech stack to save
[12:38] money. Go on a vacation with your
[12:39] family. What we're going to do is we'll
[12:41] go Looker Studio. We're going to connect
[12:43] your account. And then what we're going
[12:45] to do is we're going to look at URL
[12:47] impressions. Right
[12:50] over here, we're going to go into URL
[12:52] impressions and we're going to connect
[12:54] web. This is different. A lot of people
[12:57] when they're connecting GSC, they're
[12:59] going to go website or site impression.
[13:01] I don't want that. I want to see the
[13:03] individual URL impressions. Okay,
[13:08] we're going to open this up. And the
[13:10] very next things that you guys need to
[13:11] look at here, we'll go right here.
[13:14] Query, landing page. Those are your
[13:16] dimensions. The metrics we're looking at
[13:18] are impressions, URL clicks, and average
[13:21] position.
[13:23] That's what we're looking at. Yeah.
[13:25] I think you have a laser pointer. Oh,
[13:26] okay.
[13:29] Yeah.
[13:30] at the top.
[13:32] I think
[13:37] I'm not seeing at any rate. You guys can
[13:39] take a look at that. But what you're
[13:41] going to do is you're going to filter by
[13:42] those dimensions. What's great about
[13:43] that is now you have a pivot table where
[13:45] you can start parsing this. You can
[13:47] start analyzing the data as you need and
[13:50] you're going to get a much more uh
[13:52] robust kind of look back window for
[13:54] this. So stupid simple to do that. the
[13:57] three dots up in the corner underneath
[14:00] select data range. You're going to click
[14:01] those three dots. It'll allow you to
[14:03] either export as a CSV, Excel file or a
[14:06] Google sheet. I love those. And all
[14:09] three options are perfectly acceptable.
[14:11] You can do all of them. Um whether you
[14:14] want depending on what your use case is,
[14:16] right? Do we want to play with Google
[14:17] Sheets? Do we want to take that data
[14:19] embedded into our website? What do we
[14:21] want to do? Right? So becomes very easy
[14:25] for us to kind of manipulate that data.
[14:28] All right.
[14:31] Maybe cheat codes.
[14:34] How
[14:36] right?
[14:39] Okay. So let's talk a little bit about
[14:41] reax and sheets. Slightly different than
[14:45] what we need to do for Google search
[14:48] console. However, what we can do is we
[14:50] can classify, clean, do this text at
[14:53] scale. If you know me, we're we're going
[14:55] to take it into sheets and then we can
[14:57] go ahead and we can manipulate the data,
[14:59] do all kinds of crazy stuff with that.
[15:02] Um, create anchor text within that.
[15:04] There's a lot of really fun things that
[15:05] we can do.
[15:07] But what we want to look at here, um,
[15:09] and you you'll there's access to one of
[15:12] the, uh, documents that actually has
[15:14] this. You can copy paste it in here.
[15:17] This is a classification reax. So this
[15:19] is kind of what it looks like, right? A
[15:21] lot of code, a lot of craziness. The
[15:23] best part is you really don't need to
[15:24] know it. That's why we have chat GPT.
[15:26] That's why we have claude. Just say I'm
[15:28] looking for a reax that does this,
[15:32] right? It'll spit out the code, validate
[15:34] it, you know, go through just make sure
[15:36] it works. But you'll be able to start
[15:38] filtering this. So this particular one,
[15:40] you can kind of see it a little bit on
[15:42] the side there. What I have is I
[15:44] imported the Google search console data
[15:47] into Google Sheets. Then I ran this if
[15:50] reject match of A2 which is my keyword
[15:53] back on the other side here matches any
[15:56] of this near me open now best top
[15:59] reviews and or it has local contract or
[16:02] it if it has any of those then I want
[16:04] you to list it as local commercial.
[16:08] If it doesn't contain any of that list
[16:10] it is other. So you can set up multiple
[16:13] reaxes. You can nest these things if
[16:15] you're if you get familiar with uh with
[16:18] uh sheet coding expressions, things like
[16:20] that. Or again, chat GPT. That's the
[16:23] beautiful part about this is you can go
[16:24] in, you can modify this code, you can
[16:27] set it up with chat GPT, and you don't
[16:29] need to be a [ __ ] Excel wizard with
[16:32] stuff. This makes it super simple.
[16:34] Right,
[16:35] Brian? Have you tried Gemini Sheets
[16:37] because it has some native integration?
[16:38] It does. it doesn't quite do as good of
[16:41] a job on the code side of things. You
[16:43] would think that it would be like a
[16:44] onetoone and you're just like, "Yeah,
[16:46] this is great." Gemini for some reason
[16:48] doesn't do as great of a job with the
[16:50] reax expressions even in Google Sheets.
[16:53] I didn't mess around.
[16:56] Yeah,
[16:58] just it kind of farts out. Yeah.
[17:02] Like I'll know the advanced formula, but
[17:06] I can't even do it.
[17:08] My my go-to are either chat GPT or
[17:10] claude like either one of those you'll
[17:12] get the it'll get the reax just fine. It
[17:14] it does all this. This is a filter one.
[17:16] So this is a live view. What you can do
[17:18] is you can set your reax max match and
[17:20] then depend on depending on what you
[17:22] want to do with that best. So the B is a
[17:25] break and it's saying disregard whether
[17:27] whether or not it's capitalized, non-
[17:29] capitalized, any of that. But what
[17:30] you're going to do is you're going to
[17:31] look for best, right? I'm looking for
[17:33] intent right here. I'm looking for best,
[17:36] cheap, inexpensive,
[17:38] uh, you know, if you're doing reputation
[17:40] management, scam, reviews, things like
[17:43] that. This will parse all of that data.
[17:45] It dynamically creates it into that
[17:48] column G or wherever you're going to put
[17:49] this, and then it returns the actual
[17:53] page that is being served in Google. One
[17:55] thing I would also mention when it comes
[17:56] to Google Search Console, something you
[17:58] definitely definitely want to be looking
[18:00] at is turn off all of the other
[18:02] parameters except for ranking. What I'm
[18:06] looking for specifically there is I want
[18:08] to see if something pops in and pops out
[18:11] and pops in and pops out. Typically,
[18:14] what that tells me is that the page is
[18:15] doesn't have enough trust or it's not
[18:17] recognized by Google. So, it's going to
[18:20] pop in at position one. And you'll see
[18:22] this a lot of people be like, "Oh, well,
[18:24] if we rank number one for this really
[18:25] broad keyword like plumbing
[18:29] and you did one time at one point during
[18:32] one day, Google served you. You were you
[18:35] ranked number one and it said, "Fuck
[18:38] you. You're not worth it." No, not going
[18:40] to happen. And it drops you out of
[18:42] search. And then you'll see this and it
[18:44] pops up and then it drops out of search.
[18:46] We never want to see that. I would be
[18:48] much happier in Google Search Console if
[18:52] you were constantly in at like position
[18:54] 20, but a constant position 20 because
[18:58] then I can optimize for it. I know,
[19:00] okay, this is consistently where it's
[19:02] going to appear. Then we can update, we
[19:05] can modify, we can do all of that. The
[19:07] worst thing that can happen is when you
[19:08] start seeing it pop in, out, in, out,
[19:11] in, out, it drops down, and then in,
[19:13] out. You want to rectify that as soon as
[19:16] possible. So just be aware of that when
[19:19] it comes to Google Search Console.
[19:20] Again, if you're looking at that and you
[19:23] see the rank for a particular thing kind
[19:25] of pop in and out, go and look for
[19:26] things like canonical. Go and look at
[19:28] things like, is this a decent page? Is
[19:31] there how can we tune this up? A lot of
[19:33] it's really stupid nonsexy stuff, but
[19:37] it's just do the [ __ ] work, guys,
[19:40] right? It's it's not difficult, but you
[19:44] have to do the work. You have to put
[19:46] that in. There's no magic silver bullet
[19:48] that's going to do that for you. All
[19:49] right,
[19:51] so matching intent. This is a little bit
[19:53] longer of a reax, just a little bit.
[19:57] But what this does is so we can match
[20:00] user intent and then we can also see
[20:02] whether whether or not the buyer intent
[20:05] matches it. So, what we're looking for
[20:07] is I'm looking for are we talking about
[20:10] uh careers, hiring, salary, are we
[20:12] looking at map, location, are we looking
[20:14] at what are we specifically looking for?
[20:17] And this will help filter that, right?
[20:22] Go ahead, download this particular link
[20:25] here, the itty bitty linkstars 2026.
[20:28] This is going to give you guys a uh
[20:31] cheat sheet
[20:33] with some different Reax formulas that
[20:36] we can go in. I'm happy to take
[20:38] questions, happy to go over all this
[20:39] stuff. I know we want to make sure that
[20:41] we're kind of on point for the panel and
[20:44] all that. So, what I want to what I
[20:47] really encourage you guys to do, start
[20:49] playing around with this. Start looking
[20:51] at your Reax examples. start taking a
[20:56] look at what's actually in there. I
[20:58] would love if you guys did this right
[20:59] now, log into your Google search
[21:00] console, try putting in some of those IM
[21:03] searches or the AI prompty type
[21:05] searches. I'd love to hear from you guys
[21:07] while we're right here. Like tell me
[21:08] some of the things that you're seeing.
[21:09] This is like real world [ __ ] you can do
[21:12] right now today.
[21:14] Pull it up. You guys, bro, so real just
[21:17] to end the day, right? We're gonna take
[21:19] a question and live presentation, right?
[21:21] Somebody's gonna pull it. I mean, [ __ ]
[21:23] I'd like to see it.
[21:25] Yeah.
[21:33] Jesus.
[21:34] That was a voice search.
[21:36] Yeah.
[21:38] How could you tell?
[21:42] That's very serious.
[21:45] Let's Let's go back and look at it,
[21:46] right?
[21:47] I think it was.
[21:48] No, it is 100% a voice search.
[21:55] Maybe not.
[21:56] Or she's or she's miskeying stuff doing
[21:59] stuff like that. But you look at this
[22:03] it I would be [ __ ] rage typing. I
[22:06] mean, come on. Look at this, right?
[22:08] Who wouldn't? I don't know what, but she
[22:11] might.
[22:13] You know, this is one of those things
[22:15] that again, you can go in here. You can
[22:16] look at this AI search. Again, another
[22:19] nugget that if you guys Merino talks
[22:21] about this a lot, looking at the top of
[22:23] search, if you're in Google, we'll we'll
[22:27] do some live demo and stuff here, right?
[22:30] If we look at
[22:32] uh what's something I know there's a
[22:34] story computer, so I don't want to like
[22:36] [ __ ] it up, right? Marriage counseling
[22:40] Dallas.
[22:44] Okay,
[22:47] look at all this stuff right up top
[22:48] here.
[22:50] This tells you exactly what you need to
[22:52] be optimizing for. So, in conjunction
[22:53] with what we were looking at in search
[22:55] console, right, we've got AI mode, you
[22:58] need to be optimizing for short videos,
[23:00] forums, maps, images, videos.
[23:04] Then it gets into all this other stuff.
[23:07] But if you're not listed on all of
[23:08] those, you take those Google Search
[23:10] Console Reax expressions, right? We take
[23:14] that, we drop that in, we create short
[23:17] videos, we go into forums, we go into
[23:19] things like uh Kora, Reddit, any of
[23:22] those kinds of things.
[23:24] I'm I've seen some stuff recently online
[23:26] about this, but public Facebook groups.
[23:28] How many of you guys have a public
[23:29] Facebook group?
[23:31] If you don't, like
[23:32] those work really well. I think Joy, you
[23:35] did you write about that recently? Yeah,
[23:37] WE JUST MADE
[23:38] IT SUCKS BECAUSE I'm like this is this
[23:41] was like the secret weapon we've had for
[23:43] a while.
[23:44] Yo, in case all you know how Reddit took
[23:47] over on the forums tab, right? Facebook
[23:50] groups took over a while ago, right? You
[23:52] know, if you've been around me, you
[23:54] know, we've been on that [ __ ] Owning
[23:56] one though is the real power, right?
[23:58] Because then you can control the
[24:00] complete narrative from that date. But
[24:02] in the interim, don't mean you can't get
[24:05] you your client. That's for you to
[24:06] figure out, right? To join a group
[24:09] and get a brand mention in there. Don't
[24:11] try to do links, bro. It's about a brand
[24:14] dimension just like Reddit. Understand?
[24:16] And you don't you're absolutely right.
[24:18] You don't necessarily need the links and
[24:20] stuff. All it is is that mention of your
[24:23] brand, the mention of your brand group.
[24:25] If it's a Facebook group and it's not
[24:26] yours or you just come in with an
[24:28] outbound link, the admin might just boo
[24:30] you or remove the post. But if you do it
[24:33] without the link, it just look like
[24:34] you're trying to recommend a refer.
[24:37] I'm in search console one of my clients.
[24:39] What do I What I do in
[24:42] So there there was the Google doc. Did
[24:44] you get that?
[24:45] Google doc.
[24:46] Okay. Copy and paste that reax in. What
[24:48] you're going to do is you're going to go
[24:49] up to So you're going to go up to the uh
[24:52] in search console, you're going to go up
[24:54] to top where it's filter
[24:56] where it says inspecting URL. You put it
[24:59] there.
[25:00] Let me run back there. I'll take a look
[25:01] here. your computer.
[25:03] Yeah, it's under queries.
[25:06] Yep.
[25:12] Yep. So, filter.
[25:14] Query.
[25:15] Pop that right in. And you're going to
[25:16] instead of this,
[25:18] you're going to go rejax.
[25:19] Okay. Which one do you want me to do?
[25:20] Either one.
[25:22] Uh,
[25:23] you can do like the IM UR. That one
[25:25] works really well. That's AI search.
[25:27] Yeah. Just copy that whole thing.
[25:32] And you're gonna instead of queries
[25:33] containing, you're going to go reax.
[25:37] There you go.
[25:40] So, you haven't been mentioned at all in
[25:42] that one.
[25:42] Okay.
[25:43] Yeah.
[25:44] So, now you can do a different reject.
[25:46] Do the uh
[25:49] uh yeah, do high intent keywords. Check
[25:51] that one out.
[25:55] And then custom reax right there.
[25:59] Copy paste that separately.
[26:00] What I was gonna say got Google search
[26:02] if you guys don't use Google search
[26:04] console
[26:05] those are all queries.
[26:10] All right.
[26:12] How many people are using
[26:14] add filter?
[26:16] Query.
[26:20] Yeah. Either one of them. Do high intent
[26:21] keywords.
[26:26] Yeah. and reax instead of filters custom
[26:29] reax
[26:32] apply. Yep.
[26:36] Those are all the queries high intent
[26:38] keywords that you've appeared for. Now
[26:40] what I'm looking for so this is high
[26:42] intent. We can also look for like I am
[26:44] Yeah.
[26:54] Yes.
[26:59] It would show on the queries.
[27:00] It would show under the queries. Yes.
[27:02] If you don't have any, then it's then
[27:03] you're not appearing.
[27:04] No. No. He means but you don't have
[27:07] if you're looking at the IM queries. IM
[27:10] queries. You are those are your highly
[27:12] uh AI driven queries.
[27:15] So what you're looking for if we go back
[27:18] here, I'm looking at the IM queries. So,
[27:20] let's
[27:23] quickly click into this and I'll show
[27:25] you guys.
[27:28] So, we click into this guy right here.
[27:36] We're in this I am. You are
[27:40] reax right here.
[27:42] This particular one. How many of us
[27:45] prompt like this? you are a fill in the
[27:49] blank. This is what I need you to do.
[27:51] Right? That's kind of how we all search
[27:53] using prompting, right?
[27:55] That's what this does is it's looking
[27:58] for the query that says you are a fill
[28:01] in the blank. Here's what I need you to
[28:04] do. I am a fill in the blank. It's
[28:08] filtering that in your AI query. So
[28:11] anytime
[28:12] ask a test question to make sure. Right.
[28:15] Yeah. If someone were to search, right?
[28:19] You are a research agent and I want you
[28:21] to tell me the top plastic surgeons in
[28:23] Miami for a titty lift. This would
[28:27] that would appear.
[28:28] I just want to make sure.
[28:32] Yes.
[28:37] Oh, wait. Sorry. Sorry. I was supposed
[28:38] to tell yall about Oh, wait. And this is
[28:41] the end. So, ask questions now or Okay,
[28:44] let's do it.
[28:53] Yes.
[28:55] Yeah. I want you to or I want you. You
[28:58] add that in here. Take this reax right
[29:00] here.
[29:02] Yeah. Take that reax. Say throw into the
[29:05] chat GPT. Say add I want you or I want
[29:08] to. Any of those kind of things. It'll
[29:10] append that in there. Copy paste that
[29:12] into your Google search console. It's
[29:14] going to give you all those AI queries.
[29:19] Yeah,
[29:27] you can share it with your uh other
[29:29] accounts.
[29:30] You can invite your other one as a team
[29:32] member. Yeah,
[29:37] one time as long as it's in that
[29:39] singular account. They're like persona
[29:41] profiles, you can you can actually add
[29:43] them all in. I have like I I white label
[29:45] for several clients and so as long as
[29:47] I'm in I can pull it in as a a guest
[29:51] seat or not a guest seat but if I'm I'm
[29:54] in a Chrome profile I can go Chrome add
[29:56] this. It's almost like being logged into
[29:58] multiple profiles at the same time.
[30:00] Yeah.
[30:01] Yeah, that's totally fine. I I have
[30:05] white label clients and like I said I've
[30:06] got probably, you know, five plus
[30:11] Yeah. Yeah. No, it it totally works.
[30:16] No. Nope.
[30:21] Yeah.
[30:38] So whe
[30:51] by locality
[30:52] locality,
[30:56] correct?
[31:02] Totally. And so I think that this is
[31:04] this goes back to the idea of like right
[31:06] we're we're stuck in this kind of SEO
[31:08] like it needs to fit this mold, fit this
[31:11] like what I'm specifically looking for
[31:13] on any of that isn't necessarily like
[31:16] I'm looking for that that specific
[31:18] person. What I'm looking at is we we
[31:21] need to cast our net a lot wider and a
[31:23] lot deeper than we have in the past.
[31:26] marketing is no longer and so I was
[31:28] actually at Joyce conference in
[31:30] Nashville and one of the things that
[31:33] that we that I thought was really
[31:35] interesting with one of the uh one of
[31:37] the speakers is he was talking about how
[31:39] CRO to a lot of SEOs is this foreign
[31:41] concept and it's it shouldn't be as mark
[31:46] we need to think of ourselves as
[31:47] marketers not just an SEO if you're just
[31:51] an SEO your ass is on the chopping block
[31:53] the time is coming I would give it until
[31:56] probably third quarter
[32:00] in 2026 or end of 2026. You're going to
[32:03] see a lot of agencies that that are just
[32:05] like [ __ ] this, we're out because they
[32:07] can't figure it out. The the landscape
[32:10] is evolving. It's adapting and if you
[32:12] aren't staying up to date with this and
[32:15] if you're not moving towards that, we
[32:17] offer CRO, we're able to get your
[32:19] clients in the door. If you're just
[32:21] saying, "I do SEO," you're the first one
[32:23] on the chopping block there. When times
[32:26] get tough, they're going to kick you
[32:27] out. We need a company that can get us
[32:29] leads, get us phone calls. And at the
[32:30] end of the day, isn't that what real
[32:33] businesses do? If if I had an employee,
[32:36] I was paying them an hourly wage or a
[32:38] salary and they couldn't pull their own
[32:41] weight, you're done, dude. I'll find
[32:43] someone that can bring me leads. And
[32:45] that's what we need to understand as
[32:47] marketing professionals is that it's no
[32:50] longer just I do SEO. It's you have to
[32:53] bring them bring the milkshake to the
[32:55] yard, right? You have to be able to do
[32:58] that. If you're not able to do that,
[33:00] they're going to find someone who can.
[33:02] And so this is where we have to look at
[33:05] it from CRO,
[33:08] content, social media, blanketing the
[33:12] entire market with this is my [ __ ]
[33:14] brand. Here I am.
[33:17] This is what we got. This is what we
[33:18] bring.
[33:21] So
[33:23] I'll get you
[33:39] do
[33:44] you can put that so you can put if
[33:46] you're using the API or you're pulling
[33:48] it in through like looker studio again
[33:51] big query if you're using the GSC
[33:53] integration with that you'll get a much
[33:55] more robust set of data uh if you're
[33:58] using SEO gets they have two different
[34:00] versions the lower tier plan. They only
[34:02] give you I think it's like a like
[34:04] 18month look back. They have a higher
[34:06] tier plan that allows you to go much
[34:08] further than that. It's more like a big
[34:10] query kind of thing. So, it depends on
[34:12] what you're doing. But again, like I'm
[34:15] kind of to echo Simon, I'm lazy and I'm
[34:19] cheap, right? We It's the whole reason
[34:22] why I killed h like 90% of my tech stack
[34:25] is because the way that stuff is
[34:27] changing. If you're relying on hrefs,
[34:30] say that [ __ ] again. Go. How much
[34:32] percentage tech?
[34:33] 90% of my tech stack just gone. Chopped
[34:37] it off at the knees and like the way
[34:41] that search is changing. You don't need
[34:43] it. You need to look at what's actually
[34:46] going on. I know that several people
[34:48] Ted, right? Ted's talked about like a
[34:51] lot of us also are looking at being
[34:54] logged in versus logged out, right? A
[34:56] lot of us are kind of trained like go
[34:57] ahead and look in incognito mode. you
[34:59] know that that completely [ __ ] up your
[35:01] search.
[35:03] You need to be logged into a Google
[35:05] account.
[35:07] Go up into your personas and profiles
[35:10] right up top right in Chrome. If you're
[35:13] in Chrome, you get the personas and
[35:14] profiles being in Firefox versus Brave
[35:17] versus Chrome. This is uh Firefox right
[35:19] here,
[35:21] right? But if you're in the Chrome
[35:23] browser
[35:25] and logged in as a Gmail account, vastly
[35:29] different results.
[35:32] All have a workspace account that's
[35:34] logged in and safe, right? So that
[35:36] wherever you log in, right? So just
[35:38] imagine what you could do that with that
[35:40] same technology with person
[35:44] I'm on the desktop.
[35:48] I want to finish a thought I started
[35:50] about DSC.
[35:51] I quit HF Semrush
[35:54] so long ago, right? Because GSC GME
[35:58] Insights and then without GME Insights
[36:00] because I got UTM tags on every
[36:02] [ __ ] thing. I don't even need
[36:04] to live in the GME Insights too much
[36:06] because I can see it in the GSC plus
[36:08] Google Analytics, especially for
[36:10] referral traffic. Remember, I'm telling
[36:12] you, they'll add the referral [ __ ] into
[36:14] GSC eventually, right? and everything
[36:18] you need is there. But don't be so
[36:20] thirsty and only looking for the ranking
[36:22] pages, bro. Go in there and don't just
[36:24] look at queries. And when you are, look
[36:27] at the ones that have impressions with
[36:28] now you got a reex to run to make it
[36:30] easy. Before I would be doing this
[36:32] manually, what's getting impressions
[36:34] that could actually bring revenue,
[36:37] right? [ __ ] all the other [ __ ] What
[36:39] could bring revenue? How many
[36:40] impressions I got? No clicks. You know
[36:43] what I'mma do, right? at a certain
[36:44] point. Look, you know what I mean? That
[36:46] that's on you, though. Point is, you
[36:48] know, you're on the cusp with these now.
[36:50] It just makes it so [ __ ] easy that
[36:53] for what I'm h and by the way, when you
[36:56] guys look up keywords and [ __ ] there's
[36:59] stuff in there that I've been
[37:00] manipulating for eight years at least.
[37:03] And I'm not the only one, right? Just
[37:06] like Google Trends. And I'm sure you see
[37:08] it, bro. If you do a smaller thing,
[37:09] you're like, "Yo, look at these [ __ ]
[37:11] right? Manipulating it. There's [ __ ]
[37:13] keywords behind it, domains behind it.
[37:16] So, you got to really look at the data
[37:18] that's real. What's the realest data you
[37:21] have? GSC, bro. And yo,
[37:24] high intent keywords right there. Near
[37:26] me, open now, call, phone, quote,
[37:30] estimate. These are people with their
[37:32] wallet and credit card in hand ready to
[37:34] give you money.
[37:36] So, look,
[37:37] can I add whatever I want to?
[37:39] It's like it's like spin tax. Yeah. But
[37:41] like for here's what why I asked that.
[37:44] First thing I'mma do come in here and
[37:46] depending on my niche 24 hours open, you
[37:48] know, whatever it is for my niche,
[37:51] right?
[37:53] Yo, questions for Ko right here. Hold
[37:55] on. Hold on.
[38:08] Hit me up. We can we can totally look at
[38:10] that.
[38:21] There's a couple
[38:37] Yeah.
[38:51] Yeah.
[38:57] Yeah.
[39:10] Boom. That explains a lot. And my man
[39:13] right here from [ __ ] Chumbler hit me
[39:14] with something. He was like, "You don't.
[39:16] I'm not going to share it between us.
[39:18] You got to be at the rest of the
[39:19] network, motherfuckers." AND I WAS LIKE,
[39:22] "OH, RIGHT. IT JUST MAKES SENSE." And
[39:25] look, I didn't know it. Like, I knew how
[39:27] to solve the problem, but I didn't know
[39:28] what the problem was. Right? And then
[39:30] he's like with the data, bro. Look, when
[39:32] you see that that is this every
[39:41] guy, do you LOVE THIS [ __ ] LIKE I LIVE
[39:43] FOR THIS [ __ ]
[39:46] Any questions for KO? If not, give it up
[39:48] for KO. I'm
[39:51] awesome as usual. Oh, and by the way, if
[39:54] you guys don't have SEO, this is a no
[39:56] pitch, right? But this is just it's
[39:58] already been mentioned. Tell them you
[40:00] know uh Bino and Ko get some sort of
[40:03] discount if you can right throw our
[40:05] names in the air because it's really a
[40:08] good tool. I ain't gonna lie. being able
[40:10] to look at all of your search console
[40:12] data in one place like every single
[40:15] client
[40:17] since since we met him and he gave you
[40:19] know he was like hey Mike check this out
[40:21] and I haven't promoted it and I feel bad
[40:23] because I hardly promote things but that
[40:24] tool is the only tool my team uses we
[40:28] don't we don't lose unless we go to the
[40:31] discovery tab you know for different
[40:33] data set
[40:37] let's do